Re: US Travel ban

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 12 March 2020 06:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: US Travel ban
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:43:14 -0700
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Cc: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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You might try canceling it. When I cancelled mine, United told me that they had a fee waiver in place for flights right now, and refunded the entire fee.

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:13 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info
> 
> And travellers can probably get double whammy:
> 
> Last november? (i think) i had something like 5 flights cancelled on me,
> one being a United FRA-SFO because probably of broken machine. This
> was a return leg, but even though it as non-refundable, my company
> get a refund for that return leg because United cancelled it.
> 
> I am not 100% sure though if airlines can try to escape this refund
> if the airline doesn't want to and offer a rebooking. I think it may
> be a matter of rules of the ticket, aka: not sure what my company got
> is a MUST.
> 
> The other refund would be due to european passenger rights. United
> offered me either the cash EUR 600 or 900 USD in United travel value.
> That money according to european law is the right of the
> traveller not the entity that has paid for the flight.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:17:10PM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>> The US has just announced a travel ban from the EU. Travel from the UK is
>> not banned yet but expect that to change in the next few days as the
>> results come in from the expanded testing regime that was brought in a few
>> days back.
>> 
>> This will almost certainly mean a lot of IETF-ers are now entitled to
>> refunds as their US connections are cancelled. And most likely the airlines
>> will be getting some sort of government financial support like they did in
>> the wake of 9/11.
>> 
>> Canada has not yet followed suit but it is surely only a matter of days
>> before they do. For planning purposes I would assume that there is a
>> significant probability international travel is suspended entirely sometime
>> next week. So we can probably expect further refund opportunities.
> 
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