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Re: I-D Action: draft-leiba-cotton-iana-5226bis-19.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 11 January 2017 04:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-leiba-cotton-iana-5226bis-19.txt
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Apologies, my 2nd quote below was from Andrew, not Bob.

Regards
   Brian

On 11/01/2017 15:12, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 11/01/2017 11:57, Bob Hinden wrote:
> ...
>> While I am certainly not a trademark lawyer, I would think that if the last sentence in the first paragraph of Introduction in the draft is changed to:
>>
>>     For IETF protocols, that role is filled by the Internet Assigned Numbers
>>     Authority (IANA) Services [RFC2860] described in this document as IANA.
>>
>> I would think this is not a trademark violation, since it is clear what IANA is referring to.
> 
> Regardless, we must not issue a document with such absurd, ugly and ungrammatical
> phrasing. It would make us a laughing stock.
> 
>> _We_ do not own the IANA trademark.  The IETF Trust does. 
> 
> Don't care. Ultimately the Trust does what the IETF tells it to do. I understand
> that lawyers sometimes give very cautious advice, but it's our choice whether
> we take that advice after due consideration. Making this document read absurdly
> is simply not OK. Putting in some introductory legalese is OK.
> 
>     Brian
>

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