Re: Oauth blog post

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Mon, 30 July 2012 03:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: Oauth blog post
From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
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I have not been involved in the OAuth design processes, but for the
last few months, I’ve been a heavy user of production OAuth2 software.
Which I felt gave me a platform to comment  on the issue:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/07/28/Oauth2-dead

 -Tim

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Hannes Tschofenig
<hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote:
> It sounds indeed great to involve those communities that use the technology. However, I don't see an easy way to accomplish that when we talk about a really large community.
>
> For example, many people use TLS and they are not all in the TLS WG working group. I am not even talking about providing useful input to the work (since you would have to be a security expert and some people just want to get their application development done as quickly as possible). They just use the library.
>
> OAuth is a bit similar in that direction. Ideally, we want Web application developers to just use a library and then add their application specific technology on top of it rather than having to read the IETF specification and to write the OAuth code themselves.
>
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote:
>
>>> From: Hannes Tschofenig [hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net]
>>>
>>> Eran claims that enterprise identity management equipment manufacturer dominate the discussion.
>>
>> There's a common problem in the IETF that the development of a standard is dominated by companies that incorporate the standard into their products, whereas the people who "really should" be involved in the development are those who will *use* the standard in operation.
>>
>> Dale
>