Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 13 June 2020 21:20 UTC

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John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
    > Moreover, unless something has changed that you or Jay know
    > about but I don't, prior experience with Meetecho strongly
    > suggests that, if we discover deficiencies that we would like to
    > have corrected before IETF 108 and give them reasonable notice,
    > the chances of getting those changes made are quite good.
    > Having tried, in non-IETF contexts, to work with the providers
    > of three or four of the systems Diplo lists to get bugs or
    > unfortunate features fixed, a year or two might be plausible,
    > but not six weeks... unless , of course, one is a government
    > making demands and/or threats.

And, I think that I need to repeat that I was unable to file a real bug
report when webex stopped working for desktops with public IPv4.
I got no acknowlegement of my bug, and I have no idea what the problem is.
It's been like 6 weeks now.
And it's not like we don't know people who know the webex people.
I'm hardly surprised that zoom ate their lunch.
I am observing many paying customer abandonning gotomeeting; I'm not sure
why exactly, as it had a lot of advantages.

Allusions were made that it's my browsers' fault, but I note that all the
other webrtc based services continue to function fine.  Some even prefer IPv6.

I guess I can try removing my mitigation during the next call I'm involved
in, and see.

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