Re: [79all] IETF Badge

Lou Berger <> Mon, 15 November 2010 13:21 UTC

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	I suspect you may have misunderstood me.  I'm endorsing the old 
practice of letting in (to meetings) any who wish *without* payment or 
badge.  Sure they won't be able to go into the terminal room, but that 
isn't a significant issue.  Them eating the snacks could possibly turn 
into an issue, but it hasn't to date.


On 11/14/2010 9:30 PM, Xiangsong Cui wrote:
> Hey,
> Don't misunderstand me, although I'm telling a fantastic idea.
>> Maybe I'm just old fashioned, at least from an IETF perspective, but why
>> not just let them "drop in", i.e. attend the meeting without a badge?
> I didn't say attending without a badge, I just said some guest may attend
> IETF meeting wearing GUEST BADGE.
> Notice "the applicant should explain why he/she should be issued the guest
> badge there" in my message.
>> I've always felt this served the community well and is not really
>> different from our mailing list subscription policy.  (I hope no one
>> proposes to start charging for that, but if you take the current
>> trend/discussion a few steps farther, that's where we may end up!)
> I didn't oppose charging for meeting, I just suggest we may allow a few
> guest to attend IETF meeting (without fee) and myself would like to pay the
> normal meeting fees.
> For example, if IETF chair (or WG chair) wants to invite somebody to give
> IETF community (or specific WG) some speaking during the meeting week (maybe
> like Thursday speaking or some others), should the invited guy also register
> and pay the money for the speaking? Maybe HE/SHE doesn't attend any other
> IETF meeting.
> So here I just said, there MAY be the possibility that Guest can attend the
> meeting, I didn't say there MUST some guys who can attend IETF without fee
> payment.
>> Lou
>> BTW There was one IETF, perhaps Columbus, where I attended just one day
>> and I still paid the full amount.  Although, it cost a bit less, back
>> then. IMO contributors will "do the right thing", and we should make it
>> easy to be a lurker as they may turn into a direct or indirect
> contributor.
> You did contribute to IETF community, maybe some other friends paid full fee
> but didn't go to the meeting, they even didn't get any IETF service
> (network, beverage, etc.).
> All of you deserve my respect.
> Regards,
> Xiangsong