Re: So, where to repeat?

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Fri, 10 August 2012 16:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: So, where to repeat?
From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
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Frankfurt as the Minneapolis of Europe: central, well-connected, cold,
unglamorous.  -T

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Geoff Mulligan <geoff@proto6.com> wrote:
>
> On 08/09/2012 09:17 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
>>
>>> offlist.
>>
>> Not so much
>>
>>> Geoff,
>>>
>>> Frankfurt is a city in Germany.  I believe the IETF has never been there.
>>
>> Two more tidbits:
>>   - It's a huge aviation hub. There are direct flights from everywhere,
>> similar to CDG, Heathrow, or Schiphol
>>   - Unlike Paris, London and Amsterdam, it's not a great tourist
>> attraction, so conceivably it would be cheaper.
>
> I've found it relatively inexpensive, clean and very easy to get to.
>>
>>
>>> Other than those two tidbits about it, I've no idea what is to be
>>> accomplished by someone's randomly throwing out the names of cities for
>>> a discussion like this, especially when threads like these always have a
>>> great deal of trouble staying focused on the /principle/ rather than
>>> haggling the details.
>>
>> The principle would be to go to aviation hubs so as to minimize the
>> collective pain. Most people from the US going to Prague, would have a
>> connection in Frankfurt, so a meeting in Frankfurt would reduce the amount
>> of flights.
>
> This is why I threw out a "not so random" city name - Frankfurt.
>>
>>
>> Yoav
>>
>>> On 8/8/2012 12:24 PM, Geoff Mulligan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Frankfurt?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/8/2012 11:46 AM, Geoff Mulligan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So then why not consider, London, Paris (not the Concorde Lafayette),
>>>>>> Frankfurt, Amsterdam?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> shockingly, amsterdam can't handle the ietf.  wrong mix of resources.
>>>>> really.
>>>>>
>>>>> paris appears to have broad crime and work-ethic patterns that also are
>>>>> problematic, not just at the concorde.
>>>>>
>>>>> to be clear: i'm speaking for myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> d/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave Crocker
>>>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>>>> bbiw.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>>   Dave Crocker
>>>   Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>>   bbiw.net
>>>
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