Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last Call announcements and records]
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 17 October 2024 18:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last Call announcements and records]
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tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote: > Indeed, and I see the WG Chair as having more influence in this matter > than the ADs who come and go more often in my experience. Also, I see > the WG style as a major influence. Some WG Chair say there has been no > response to WGLC so the I-D will be forwarded to the IETF. Other WG > Chair say there has been no response so the I-D will NOT be forwarded. > To me, both are correct. It is the house style of the WG which AD may > or may not come across in their own WG. I think that in both cases the WG chairs ought to review RFC7282. I think that WG chairs are responsible for judging consensus. A draft which has received significant discussion, even if not during WGLC, could be ready. I abhor "as the author I +1", as it leads to no useful information in my opinion. I've seen WG chairs complain that even the authors didn't +1, and frankly, they shouldn't have to. WG chairs need to structure all consensys calls with a deadline, and a default action if there is no dissension. That could well be negative: "The WG chairs have seen significant objection to draft foo-bar, however, it is unclear if the objections stand given the latest changes. Please post within two weeks if you have changed your mind, otherwise, the WG will abandon the document on YYYYMMDD." -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
- Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last Call… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … S Moonesamy
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … John C Klensin
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … John C Klensin
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Jean Mahoney
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … John C Klensin
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Jean Mahoney
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Barry Leiba
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Loa Andersson
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … John C Klensin
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Barry Leiba
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Mary B
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Michael Richardson
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … tom petch
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Michael Richardson
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Joel Halpern
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Michael Richardson
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … John C Klensin
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Salz, Rich
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … John C Klensin
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Barry Leiba
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last … Rob Sayre