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Re: Enough DMARC whinging

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Thu, 01 May 2014 21:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: Enough DMARC whinging
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In message <5362B4C6.10904@meetinghouse.net>, Miles Fidelman writes:
> Dave Crocker wrote:
> > On 5/1/2014 1:36 PM, Jim Fenton wrote:
> >> I'd like to understand the relationship of RFC 4846, which is
> >> Informational, with RFC 5792/BCP 92 here. The latter gives IESG 5
> >> options for review of independent submissions for conflicts with the
> >> IETF standards process, such as:
> >>
> >>     5. The IESG has concluded that this document extends an IETF protocol
> >>        in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be
> >>        published without IETF review and IESG approval.
> >
> > Since DMARC does not extend any existing IETF protocol, how is that
> > reference useful here?
> 
> Sure looks to me like DMARC extends both SMTP and DNS.

And DKIM.
 
> Miles Fidelman
> 
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> In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra
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