Re: Hotel situation

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

Jari,

Thanks for the explanation, but i had much simpler question i raised
on this thread, but i fear i am not getting them answered, so let me add
the IAOC mailing list:

1. How many rooms at the Hilton where blocked out at the rate of $209 ?
2. How many rooms at the Hilton where blocked out at the rate of $270 ?
3. Home many rooms at the hilton at the rate of $209 where available for
   booking at the time yesterday when the official announcement was made to the IETF mailing list ?

Thanks
    Toerless

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 02:36:21PM +0200, Jari Arkko wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I wanted to first apologise for the difficult situation with hotels (again) - I know
> this is important, the IAOC knows this is important, and we are trying. But
> I realise that we?re not doing as well as we should. For various reasons.
> I refer to what Ray said and what Lou said and what several people
> such as Glenn have said about hotel business in general. And thank
> you Ray for providing numbers; we?d be happy to provide any other
> numbers that people want to see. I also feel bad that I myself am
> contributing to the problem as the meeting organisers do set up
> a part of the room block marked for, for instance for the IESG
> members or the secretariat.
> 
> From the IAOC and meeting organising staff point of view, one of the
> parameters that we try to figure out is what block size works for us
> in the main hotel. There are very good reasons to make that block
> big; but there are also some reasons to not make it too big, risk
> for us and the hotel, reduction in the number of hotels that we
> can even consider, cost increases, etc. The IAOC wants to run
> the IETF finances tight so we have been looking at the room
> blocks, the number of small meeting rooms and other
> factors that we ask for in our hotel contracts. Yokohama
> and Buenos Aires have made at least me rethink this,
> and maybe our balance isn?t where it should be. Unfortunately,
> the hotel deals are made well ahead in time, so it is difficult to
> course correct immediately.
> 
> I also liked Lou?s prioritised requirements effort.
> 
> A couple of other notes, mostly from a personal perspective.
> I?ve been to Buenos Aires for a couple of meetings by now,
> and I never stayed in the main meeting hotel, either because
> I wanted my employer to have to pay less (100$ gets you
> many hotels and I wasn?t going to have a vacation in my
> room anyway, so a place to sleep was fine) or
> once because the meeting host who had invited me had
> me placed in one of the surplus hotels due to lack
> of availability in their main hotel (which was the Sheraton).
> 
> But moving around in the city was easy. I walked everywhere.
> I also used taxis, which are cheap and plentiful.
> 
> The waterfront area between the Hilton and the main city
> center has plenty of good restaurants.
> 
> I?ve been to the Hilton, for a meeting, but not stayed at
> it. Looked very classy and modern. Compared to the
> Sheraton It is newer but also smaller and a bit longer
> walk away from the area that the hotels are more plentiful.
> 
> Jari
> 



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