RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP Extensions for Distributed Authoring - WebDAV) to Proposed Standard
Ted Hardie <hardie@qualcomm.com> Fri, 19 January 2007 22:17 UTC
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:16:26 -0800
To: Kevin Wiggen <kwiggen@xythos.com>, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>, Manfred Baedke <manfred.baedke@greenbytes.de>, Geoffrey M Clemm <geoffrey.clemm@us.ibm.com>
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Subject: RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP Extensions for Distributed Authoring - WebDAV) to Proposed Standard
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At 1:36 PM -0800 1/19/07, Kevin Wiggen wrote: >I think what the spec needs is some love and attention. If enough of us (and I will volunteer to READ and COMMENT) spend time on this, I think we can come to some sort of resolution. I would hate to see the work done by the working group, Geoff, Julian, Lisa, etc go to waste. I would also hate to see the work of this working group go to waste. But I do not believe that an additional two months, starting with a document that is not up to date or the product of working group discussion, is at all a practical time estimate. As its Area Advisor, I gave this working group a six month time line to finish its work eighteen months ago. The last three months of that period saw more significant activity than the working group had had in the previous year. Close to the deadline, Cullen asked that the WG be extended as there were a few final issues that needed resolution. We are now almost a year on from that point. Suggesting that an additional two months would resolve things is, bluntly, completely contrary to the experience of this WG. The first draft of this document was issued *five years ago*. If it is better than 2518, it is time to push it out the door and making a new line in the sand. Too much of what to do with webdav is now "lore" in the heads of the current implementors and unavailable without sifting through the WG archives. I believe getting this document out will help, even if it does not solve the problem completely or meet its original goal (to get to Draft Standard). That doesn't preclude there ever being a 2518ter or a Draft Standard here. But with the current inputs, we are well past the point of diminishing returns. Getting this document out as a Proposed Standard seems to me, both personally and as the working group's area advisor, the best balance of retaining the work that has been done and setting the stage for eventual further work. Ted Hardie _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Cullen Jennings
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Cullen Jennings
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
- RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Cullen Jennings
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Geoffrey M Clemm
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Manfred Baedke
- Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP… Julian Reschke
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