Re: There is no proposal on the table for *IETF* incorporation (Was: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]
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Subject: Re: There is no proposal on the table for *IETF* incorporation (Was: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]
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Hi Pete, At 6:17 PM -0400 9/8/04, Margaret Wasserman wrote: >>To date, there has been no proposal, in Carl's document or >>otherwise as far as I know, for *the IETF* to incorporate as a >>separate entity. There have been proposals to incorporate a body to >>deal with IETF administrative functions (like contracting for >>meetings, contracting for ISP and web service, etc.), referred to >>in Carl's document as "IETF Foundation". Incorporating that sort of >>entity wouldn't change I don't think that there is a clear yes/no answer to your question. Carl's draft makes a distinction between the "*Administrative Functions*" and "*Standards Process Functions*" of ISOC, where the administrative functions and standards process functions are defined as follows: "1. *Administration Functions.* As discussed in subsequent sections, the Internet Society provides an administrative and financial function, managing the contract with the RFC Editor, providing insurance for selected IETF participants, and administering a discretionary fund for use by the IAB and the IETF Chairs. 2. *Standards Process Functions* The Internet Society plays a fundamental role in the IETF Standards Process, including appointment of the Nominating Committee chair, confirmation of IAB members, confirmation of documents that describe the standards process, and acting as the last resort in the appeals process. These Standards Process Functions are defined in [RFC2028], [RFC2031], and [RFC3677] and are out of scope for this analysis. No changes are proposed to these Standards Process Functions." Carl's document explicitly states that ISOC's role in the standards process (in item 2 above) is "out of scope", but leaves open the possibility of changes to ISOC's administrative functions (item 1), which include insurance coverage. A note for future versions: This breakdown omits ISOC's fund raising efforts. It also omits the fact that ISOC currently funds the RFC editor. Margaret _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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