Re: Excessive use of interim meetings

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 18 February 2020 18:37 UTC

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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:37:45 -0500
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
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Thanks.
   john


--On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:59 -0500 Phillip Hallam-Baker
<phill@hallambaker.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 3:46 PM John C Klensin
> <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> > W3C didn't scale either, we ended up having to create OASIS.
>> 
>> Huh?  According to my memory and their web site, OASIS is the
>> renamed descendant of an SGML-oriented both created in around
>> 1993.  I remember organizational and Advisory Committee of W3C
>> in the last half of that decade, so it is a bit hard for me to
>> figure out how scaling problems with W3C were diagnosed early
>> enough to lead to a new organization in 1993.
>> 
> 
> OASIS was originally formed as an SGML organization with IBM
> as the main backer. It was essentially re-invented when IBM
> and Microsoft decided to work together on Web Services and the
> Web Service stack.
> 
> In corporate terms, it was a reverse merger. XML-OASIS was a
> very different thing from SGML-OASIS.