Re: Bake-off as trademark

Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU> Mon, 06 November 2000 23:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: Bake-off as trademark
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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 14:08:01 -0800
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In-Reply-To: <20001106205905.A206135DC2@smb.research.att.com> from "Steven M. Bellovin" at Nov 06, 2000 03:59:05 PM
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% 
% In message <3A071135.38F7B7D8@cs.columbia.edu>, "Henning G. Schulzrinne" writes
% :
% >I've been approached regarding the use of the (claimed-to-be)
% >trademarked term bake-off. It would be helpful if somebody can provide
% >credible evidence that this term has been used within the technical
% >community for many years. (In case you didn't know,
% >http://www.bakeoff.com/ shows the non-technical use....)
% 
% It's used in RFC 1371, from October 1992.  Of course, that RFC also 
% says:
% 
%    The IAB/IETF are committed to a timely introduction of OSI into the
%    Internet.
% 
% Anyway -- I seem to recall seeing the term in "TCP/IP Protocol 
% Transition Handbook", from circa 193, but my copy isn't conveniently 
% accessible at the moment.
% 
% 		--Steve Bellovin

Interop was Dan Lynches venue for TCP/IP bakeoffs in the 1980's.
(thats why we have only three IETFs... :)

--bill