Re: [rfc-i] New proposal/New SOW comment period

Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> Sun, 15 September 2019 19:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] New proposal/New SOW comment period
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>> Actually, I'm not understanding why the RSOC couldn't just decide it
>> prefers Mike's proposal as a simpler way of obtaining the desired
>> goal of an acting RSE to keep things moving along without mortgaging
>> the future. I don't see that violating the RSOC's role, in these
>> unusual circumstances.
> 
> That sounds right to me.
> 
> 	Henrik

+1

simple solutions are sometimes best.