Re: Just so I'm clear

[Mark Andrews <[e-mail]>]

In message <[e-mail]>, Margaret Wass
erman writes:
> 
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
> > I get what you're saying, but this is one of those times where (arguably
> > for the better) we've created a difficult procedure that should be
> > infrequently exercised. We should follow the procedure because it _is_
> > the procedure. And then use the opportunity to improve it.
> 
> The existence of the recall procedure does not imply that there isn't any 
> other way for a seat to become vacant.  For example, a seat can become 
> vacant when an I* member resigns or dies, and there is no need for a 
> recall in those cases.  
> 
> I think it is reasonable for the IAOC to set it's own (reasonable, 
> consistent) bar for deciding that a sitting member has vacated his/her 
> seat through lack of attendance and lack of response.  No recall should 
> be needed in that case to replace the missing member, any more than if 
> the person had explicitly resigned.  The IAOC sent a long list of things 
> that they have done to contact Marshall, and he has not responded.  It 
> seems impossible that he has not received any of those contacts, so his 
> lack of response is indicative, IMO, that he has indeed vacated his seat.

But we don't have rules that say, "failure to attend for X period,
without permission, will result in the position being declared
vacant".  I we did this would be simple.  I don't think we have
any choice from a proceedural point of view other than to start
recall proceedings.

> I share the hope of the IAOC and others that Marshall is okay, and that 
> he will return to the IETF when he can.  I appreciate his contributions 
> throughout the years, and I would be happy to see him return to continue 
> making those contributions.  For now, though, he has vacated his IAOC 
> seat and should be replaced.
> 
> Margaret

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