Re: IETF 62

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Mon, 20 September 2004 18:57 UTC

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>>>>> "jamal" == jamal  <hadi@cyberus.ca> writes:
    jamal> I would agree with the sufficiently large venue - although it
    jamal> could be done (and there are a lot of things cooking this
    jamal> year in terms of new conference centres). Toronto or montreal
    jamal> would be better choices from that perspective.  What suprised
    jamal> me was the "bloody awkward" to get to Ottawa being a
    jamal> criteria. I thought alcatel has big presence here and would
    jamal> know better.  My contention is it is much more easier to get
    jamal> here than to Mineapolis.

  With the exception that Minneapolis is a NW/KLM hub, and there are
some international flights that land there, Ottawa and Minneapolis are
basically both 1 hour flight from a major hub.

  Ottawa:      Toronto	     (air canada)
	       Chicago	     (united, american)
	       Pittsburgh    (U-scare)
	       Newark	     (Continental)
	       Detroit	     (Northwest)

  Minneapolis: Toronto	     (air canada, NW. 1.5 hours)
	       Chicago
	       Denver
	       St.Louis		(is it still a hub?)
	       Northwest hub

  Also, many of the european airlines fly into Montreal with a dedicated
shuttle to ottawa.

  The only obvious hotel that is right-sized is the westin+congress
centre.  There are other choices, including one corner with four hotels
on it, and enough conference space, but we'd be slightly split up.

  There is a group that is trying to host fall-NANOG/ARIN 2005 in Ottawa.
That's about half the size of IETF, but otherwise has similar
requirements.

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