Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use of PowerPoint in meetings

t.p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> Thu, 20 March 2014 10:11 UTC

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <hallam@gmail.com>
To: "John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com>
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> For what we use it for, powerpoint is actually useful.
>
> Most cases what is put up on slides is examples. And I find it much
> easier to follow an example that is written down than one that is
> read.
>
> The other point that is overlooked by the powerpoint haters is that
> the principal value is that it rescues incompetent speakers. There are
> some people who are good speakers at IETF but the speaking
> qualification is only an opinion and a keyboard. Being able to
> organize a logical series of thoughts does not come into it.
>
> I am more than happy to present without slides. The reason I write
> them is that the meeting organizers DEMAND them. And they are quite
> right to do that because I have two speaking modes one of which is
> PowerPoint and the other is 'TED talk'.
>
> Guess which one has the technical content.

The most striking feature for me of IETF89 was the failure of almost all
WG Chairs to produce a PowerPoint display at all, without some trial and
error.  Most laptops etc these days have a widescreen aspect ratio
(WHY???) whereas none of the projectors did, so what appeared on the
screen tended to be the top left corner or right hand extreme or ... of
the Agenda, Note Well and so on.

It seems a shame to get so many engineers together in a room and then
spend five minutes trying to get a display working.  PowerPoint may
rescue incompetent speakers but it does nothing for those who cannot
interface a laptop to a projector.

Tom Petch

it's been a while since we discussed the use of P… Tony Hansen
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … John Levine
RE: it's been a while since we discussed the use … l.wood
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Henning G Schulzrinne
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Dale R. Worley
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … David Morris
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Hector Santos
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … t.p.
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Yoav Nir
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Frank Solensky
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Scott Brim
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)
RE: it's been a while since we discussed the use … l.wood
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … Mukom Akong T.
Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use … t.p.