RE: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair

"Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" <sergio.belotti@nokia.com> Thu, 27 February 2020 13:21 UTC

Return-Path: <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263743A0804 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 27 Feb 2020 05:21:09 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RtMSaeYGspWg for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 27 Feb 2020 05:21:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from FRA01-PR2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr120121.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.12.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E77023A0803 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Thu, 27 Feb 2020 05:21:04 -0800 (PST)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=T7mtievGkH8IujCp0TRc27V8u7AeyS8qjjRniY2VZyFEvatyF6Grsq9wdqVz99hNSwE5VoPNurN7twtOR0fT/H2z2kd94nmLBlRbFk0o+rmODYXIquAa3kNm6o7pELCurZVl1Agm/GOy5SB8DoLJWsOEv32YKdvODt7BlzGsfHb4poA3wpx/NN6iQ3erITXjlPW1hAOWLoTrVsoFWHYXOUw5+Bao+AwSF//NdTEjSagLtt8foULQJ35/2KOyUqzbmKwbeQCYlp7oIXGj4zz1dMpRc1Vz8e3VLSuzEhaLiwGjGHEqSOQNS/HYwJ6OJy2KcdeTlGG+LMTuR2aixe2eNQ==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=iNZKWV/YHy15dOD4MIcUZWtTO+3JZkhnHtxAzw3mUe8=; b=UImcODbZqNKtxP+GU2u6nvR82FYWGWjhTst+ZS2bopRliSQwe984VGvnG+54T1FalupXXym17lSnsejmfINENHxuYShDAaVDrJ3DBeYOxyUbhMmb8lwjlwRJJxZFA891MjJEMRgUjuhXccFFiSXhZ6k/WIaJBU6zQvoUbNps0Tg3M731UXWIKIYTb4ebqNgWHz7PCltdSVo6vxr8x6l3K8JQ5ZntMVz4WkcNrSZvsRFIkz0T1IPbcJllwG+iTUhM2oLv0tMj60Vgd6BbMJYrFwWnRICT+4MWhhsoWscNgpgjNdjrbXrDK7wzC4IR2wBdhYnlf6EiZobpkhlLKhp+BA==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=nokia.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=nokia.com; dkim=pass header.d=nokia.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-nokia-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=iNZKWV/YHy15dOD4MIcUZWtTO+3JZkhnHtxAzw3mUe8=; b=zHG6xO5un8RgaQauY4WmAMXYTDWc1ymHC/YscGaG05gCCtsfn2MssNrRvQEMWvR70m/zI3w1zX8d1Rv6j/yHd5aOdfhwHr25i2eI1lI6NEMrNAMhmlDOfMS/ZNMrzH38wpep53qZjIbMnyi7c47Bxl83FSh5OkAHCnGfA71igcU=
Received: from PR1PR07MB5001.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (20.177.208.215) by PR1PR07MB4841.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (20.177.209.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2772.11; Thu, 27 Feb 2020 13:21:02 +0000
Received: from PR1PR07MB5001.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::d079:ef27:7a7e:2af4]) by PR1PR07MB5001.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::d079:ef27:7a7e:2af4%5]) with mapi id 15.20.2772.012; Thu, 27 Feb 2020 13:21:02 +0000
From: "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair
Thread-Topic: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair
Thread-Index: AQHV7W7pnhRD1J9wtUuSjFs1R479vqgvBngQ
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 13:21:02 +0000
Message-ID: <PR1PR07MB50013AC0465011F8B04A16A291EB0@PR1PR07MB5001.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAA=duU1xu0aGY--B281SjQzJZmk_nYmZZh9bcqZPeGegxFNUVA@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAA=duU1xu0aGY--B281SjQzJZmk_nYmZZh9bcqZPeGegxFNUVA@mail.gmail.com>
Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=sergio.belotti@nokia.com;
x-originating-ip: [82.54.56.219]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: ac39f6da-36ad-4b00-80c9-08d7bb87e4cb
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: PR1PR07MB4841:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <PR1PR07MB484106F4BE9C2AAF02B0F41091EB0@PR1PR07MB4841.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:9508;
x-forefront-prvs: 03264AEA72
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(4636009)(376002)(396003)(366004)(39860400002)(346002)(136003)(199004)(189003)(33656002)(6506007)(53546011)(86362001)(186003)(478600001)(26005)(5660300002)(7696005)(71200400001)(110136005)(81166006)(81156014)(8676002)(66476007)(66556008)(76116006)(64756008)(55016002)(66446008)(52536014)(8936002)(2906002)(316002)(9686003)(66946007); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:PR1PR07MB4841; H:PR1PR07MB5001.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: nokia.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: ceC5JD+/U02twcEIjlCTUYqA4T+rEdUAifb2sYceT1CZdZVG4YXLT+3einQ8Hn8Cc9eELTWoX+k2q3jA58VLnQY4oEoHjrvethFQCGH/q81MSWLTa/pfCA4z7tUaULCcsQ2PVK1vI5AHU2mPT24iKGk0dSXeGVwU1bWuHY8yJEe2Ex8MQ4VTY2+Zbf+nTFPG2hR9uMSq19egVXtdEdIaW5EJ5lyrSV92jqSOUfleBjf3XRqfuETMGr5WRUNW2laRwzNyTLSQ8+juDvP2zyMCwcLseBCJarQFr095nK+ZaCSW0BTq+q6YVzlhWG4f9SuvdpGwn7dZMK2DkT2gMvQZ1pz8OSH7LWAzJQWKn/AYUrIFNNcF2RX2q0IdrVa0pwzi7T8SlROgNP0kb/wsqGqMyYtOajuB9SU/Q7wYJLonM15CmWy+ZnnX7S5cgiYdDX/j
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: toQYQWhcQxx1E9k8REwMAerygnd768c2DohSQ66tAEOsZD3HUscnhCSyLsZuAiQoJQqDFFEDRMu1OHG3Udz3QJagMThX1G+nki86RpEyJyp9JGYguBL9m0znb/GpFHp35bBfcfrJFUrlwiY+V4sVEQ==
x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_PR1PR07MB50013AC0465011F8B04A16A291EB0PR1PR07MB5001eurp_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ac39f6da-36ad-4b00-80c9-08d7bb87e4cb
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 27 Feb 2020 13:21:02.8366 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: CFycGqOMtBrNBrNwlJ5QBRjEbKAI0RT937c2Q3oEM9pR1482+xwaucPOTSk3g5GtYRA3QhW2j9ujp2aL9J1AIsSaXXT2P/tPONN3B65CPpE=
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PR1PR07MB4841
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/lt73TXQ2KcWM_ChitiMhQD4pPgo>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 13:21:09 -0000

+1 , good suggestion, Andrew!

Thanks
Sergio

From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:07 PM
To: IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair

There have been a number of comments that an all-virtual IETF meeting would be difficult for some set of attendees due to time zone shifting while they're in their home time zone. While it's impossible to hold a particular WG session that works for ALL attendees around the world, let the WG chairs choose, for each WG, what time out of the 24-hour clock works for the majority of their active participants. It'll be up to the WG chairs to figure that out for each WG, with the approval of the relevant AD. But there's no reason why all of the WGs need to meet during the same "daylight" hours if the meeting is all virtual. WGs could also have multiple sessions optimized for different parts of the world, to spread the pain. Just a thought ....

Cheers,
Andy