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Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com> Fri, 06 September 2013 19:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA
From: Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
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On Sep 6, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> wrote:
> What if they didn't say they were NSA guys, but just discretely worked a weakness into a protocol? What if they were a trusted senior member of the community?

If we have trusted senior members making false statements that can be shown to be false, then they won't get consensus if we do our consensus process right.   So if this has happened in the past, you should be able to find evidence that it has happened.  If you can't find such evidence, I think it's harmful to assume that it has happened.   The IETF process is in principle extremely robust in the face of this kind of behavior.   I encourage you to go looking, but don't descend into madness.

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