Re: IETF chair's blog

["Carlos M. Martinez" <[e-mail]>]

What about possibly 'open' social networks? I remember Quora intended to
become something like that. What about something the whateverOverflow
sites (StackOverflow, etc). IMO they are some of the best managed
technical 'social' sites out there, they do a great job.

I can easily imagine a IETFOverflow :D

Back to the discussion, I'm also torn here, but I definitely believe
that some FB/Twitter outreach from the IETF itself wouldn't hurt at all.

I do believe that a radical change in the way discussions are conducted
(like moving from the MLs to a say, a Google Hangout or whatever) cannot
be undertaken without some major thinking and pro/con evaluation.

>From the discussion here, it appears that my approach to the cloud and
social is kinda 'middle aged', not so young nor old. I use Google Docs
quite a lot, but keep a local copy of everything in my drive. I use
Dropbox, but also copy everything to an external drive. I use FB, but
wouldn't send a work message through it (and believe me I know people
who do use FB messaging for work)

As our friend 'falsehood911' comments, I do also believe that there is
something to be said for traditions and stances. They got there for a
reason, even if that reason got lost in the mists of time. One should do
well being careful before abandoning / changing them.

Warm philosophical regards,

~Carlos


On 2/28/13 4:54 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> Young people like myself may use other networks to communicate, but we
> also mistrust them. There is something virtuous about the IETF stance
> that is appealing and helpful to its brand (and made signing up for this
> listserve more attractive). I am wary of diluting that brand by putting
> the brand into walled gardens, especially any sort of Facebook page.
> Whatever use there is, it should be easy for people to find the
> open-source resources, keeping outside hosted content as a gateway into
> the ISTF.
> 
> -WLS
> 
> On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Arturo Servin wrote:
> 
>> t
>>     It appears that the path that this discussion has followed has proven
>> your point.
>>
>> /as
>>
>> On 25/02/2013 23:31, Alejandro Acosta wrote:
>>> On 2/25/13, Arturo Servin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>> Fred,
>>>>
>>>>     I am not convinced that social nets (proprietary or not) are yet
>>>> a good
>>>> tool to do IETF work. They are good to communicate one-way and some
>>>> informal two-ways, but that's all (at least for now)
>>>>
>>>>     What I had in mind was something very simple such that the IETF
>>>> chair
>>>> could do is to automatically post to twitter, facebook, etc whenever
>>>> there is a new post from his blog and receive from communication using
>>>> those tools (besides the comments in the blog). But that is all.
>>>
>>> This scenario sounds good for me.  Of course this is not a
>>> substitution of the mailing list, this is complementary. It's nice to
>>> receive a tweet with the subject of the blog post and the URL to click
>>> on it.
>>>
>>> Some time ago in this mailing list we were discussing that the average
>>> age of IETF is getting old (of course, there are many exceptions). Did
>>> you know that young people do not use email as much as us?. Saying
>>> that, this can be a good way to bring young people to IETF.
>>>
>>> Alejandro Acosta,
>>>
>>>
>>> {...}
>>>
>