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RE: Think outside the box - Re: Want to be on the IESG?

Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org> Tue, 19 October 2021 00:20 UTC

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Subject: RE: Think outside the box - Re: Want to be on the IESG?
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The "box" is the SHMOO charter. It was explicitly chartered with putting off
any planning for any long-term (over 5 years) inability to hold useful
face-to-face meetings.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of S Moonesamy
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 3:18 PM
> To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Think outside the box - Re: Want to be on the IESG?
> 
> Hi Toreless,
> At 07:54 AM 13-10-2021, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> >Let me give just two examples:
> >
> >manycouches had many couch potatoes arguing for many many years to
> have
> >at least one virtual-only IETF per year, even if just as an experiment.
> >I do not remember a single AD thinking outside of a box to push for
> >such an experiment. It took covid.
> 
> The message at
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manycouches/pUzNqQtV6HfzuS5YRw
> 7cVAlvINM/
> is from 2016.  The discussion predates the current pandemic.
> 
> >A good amount of work, especially design teams became a lot more open
> >in reaction to USA EAR politics.
> 
> I haven't looked into that.
> 
> Do mean that Area Directors are unable to consider a perspective which is
> contrary to IETF dogma?
> 
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy

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