Re: Further update on COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and IETF 107 Vancouver

[Kathleen Moriarty <[e-mail]>]

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:29 PM Warren Kumari <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:22 PM Jared Mauch <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 26, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Ron Bonica <rbonica=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Joseph,
> > >
> > > The IETF’s current practice of holding three in-person meetings per
> year is not sustainable. If not today, at some time in the future, the IETF
> will be forced to hold a fully on-line meeting. This may be motivated by:
> > >
> > >       • The next public health issue
> > >       • Environmental concerns
> > >       • Geopolitical or visa concerns
> > >       • Economic concerns
> > >
> > > Since we are going to have to learn how to hold an on-line meeting
> sooner or later, why not now?
> > >
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > I think we should try it as an experiment and add a virtual interim
> before we’re forced to.  I don’t know what the next N-days until travel to
> YVR hold, but  as of right now I plan to be there.
>

I plan to be there as well, as of now.  This situation is changing quickly
though and the possibility of getting stuck somewhere is also real.  For
some, getting sick is worse, for others, getting stuck is the concern.
However, refunds on travel may only be possible if some regional situation
is declared.


> >
> > I think organizing something planned even as a test would be interesting
> though.
>
> I'd like to point out that many many WGs have held virtual interim
> meetings - it seems that using these as a datapoint would be a good
> first step.
> I've participated in a bunch of them, and have found them to be not
> very effective -- more effective than not meeting at all, but not by
> much.
>

Interesting, I find them to be effective at progressing work and resolving
outstanding issues.  They serve as a forcing function, much like a meeting.
Perhaps there are lessons that can be shared from groups who find the
online interims to be effective.

Best regards,
Kathleen


> >
> > I think it’s also important that WGs use their lists efficiently as well.
> >
>
> Indeed.
> W
>
> > - Jared
>
>
>
> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
>    ---maf
>
>

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Best regards,
Kathleen