Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise levels
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 11 February 2015 16:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise levels
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Hi Christopher, Brian, On 2015-02-10 10:41, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: > Fred Baker >> I use the draft-*.all mailing lists to do what their description >> says they do - copy the authors, working group chairs, and relevant >> ADs on something specific to the draft. > > The document shepherd should also be on that list. I've seen a case > where he missed something he should have seen due to a similar list > being used. The shepherd is on the .all list, and this has been the case since the .shepherd alias was introduced, which was about a year or year and a half ago. The aliases that are created currently are as follows (except that aliases that have empty expansions are not created): <draftname> Authors <draftname>.authors Authors <draftname>.chairs WG Chairs (for WG drafts) <draftname>.ad AD/ADs (if any) <draftname>.shepherd Shepherd (if any) <draftname>.notify As set in the document's notify field in the DB and finally <draftname>.all All of the above Setting the notify field to contain .all or all of the components of .all, which is the default now, essentially makes the notify field and the .all aliases have the same semantics. I think that's a mistake. A better solution would be to tease apart which kind of notifications should be sent to all, and which need go only to people more closely involved in the day-to-day handling of a draft, and have the datatracker send notifications either to .notify or .all, depending on the kind of notification. Possibly an additional alias <draftname>.group would turn out to be useful in order to populate .all with the WG list, if that is deemed desirable. Best regards, Henrik
- Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise lev… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Robert Sparks
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… John C Klensin
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Robert Sparks
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Pete Resnick
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Eggert, Lars
- RE: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… t.p.
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Lou Berger
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Robert Sparks
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Robert Sparks
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… t.p.
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Jari Arkko
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Dave Crocker
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Joel M. Halpern
- RE: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… George, Wes
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… George, Wes
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Robert Sparks
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… George, Wes
- Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise… Robert Sparks