Re: IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 02 November 2016 16:38 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 12:37:49 -0400
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Subject: Re: IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC
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And yet it is still happening, despite there being a great deal of
discussion in the archives...   :/

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:36 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> In article <678C2FBA-A661-4556-A300-5C08562B5F8A@iii.ca> you write:
>>So if someone send a email with a bad signature to an IETF list from a domain that has a reject
>>policy, and the IETF server forwards it to my email email provider, my email provider rejects it. Now
>>the IETF email server counts that as a bounce. Too many bounces in a row and the IETF server
>>unsubscribes me from the list.
>
> This is a well known DMARC failure mode that has been discussed at
> great length on this very list.  Please see the archives.
>
>>What's the right advice on how the IETF server should be run?
>
> This is a topic that has been discussed at great length on this very
> list.  Please see the archives.  ALso look for ARC which is a DMARC
> band-aid in development that's supposed to mitigate DMARC damage.
>
>>If Jana sends the email directly to me, it works. This seems to point at the IETF server is doing
>>something that breaks signature in Jana email.
>
> This is a well known DMARC failure mode that has been discussed at
> great length on this very list.  Please see the archives.
>
> R's,
> John
>