Re: Proposed New Note Well
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Tue, 05 January 2016 09:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: Proposed New Note Well
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On 01/05/2016 01:35 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > IPR disclosures under Sections 6.1.1. and 6.1.2 are required with > respect to IPR that is owned directly or indirectly by or otherwise > benefits the individual or his/her employer or sponsor (if any) or > to IPR that such persons otherwise have the right to license or assert." > > I don't like the idea of legislating on such a fundamental question other than > through a BCP. > > Note that this is not a trivial extension. If companies A and B have a private > patent cartel (a.k.a. cross-licensing), contributors from company B would > be caught by this extension if aware of a relevant patent owned by company A. > That really isn't something we can slide in through the back door. In particular, "would benefit", if strictly interpreted, would mean that anyone participating in a patent pool with license redistribution, or possibly even ones with defensive suspension clauses (if that's seen as a benefit) would be on the hook for any patent in the pool, not just the ones they own or contributed to it. MPEG-LA licensors, for instance, would probably like to know what the rule is on that. [Agreed fully with Jorge that this needs to go to the BCP79bis discussion, not the Note Well discussion - Note Well has to summarize / reference the *existing* rules, not what we (IETF mailing list members of the moment) think the rules should be.] -- Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark.
- Proposed New Note Well IESG Secretary
- RE: Proposed New Note Well Adrian Farrel
- Re: Proposed New Note Well John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Doug Ewell
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Proposed New Note Well John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Dave Cridland
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Mark Nottingham
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Jorge Contreras
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Jorge Contreras
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Harald Alvestrand
- Contributions (Re: Proposed New Note Well) Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Ted Lemon
- Re: Proposed New Note Well John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed New Note Well lloyd.wood
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Pete Resnick
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Scott Bradner
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Tim Chown
- Re: Proposed New Note Well Pete Resnick
- Re: Proposed New Note Well John C Klensin