Re: I-D Action: draft-hardie-iaoc-iab-update-00.txt

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Wed, 03 February 2016 15:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-hardie-iaoc-iab-update-00.txt
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Brian:

> I think the IETF Chair slot is a different matter. Yes, the IETF Chair is
> also the IESG Chair, but I don't believe s/he is in the IAOC on behalf of
> the IESG. On the contrary, it's on behalf of the IETF. I think it's
> exactly right that the IETF Chair votes in the IAOC, because nobody
> else has the same overview, and also because I believe that any IETF Chair
> who did not closely track the IAOC's business would be irresponsible.

This document does not discuss the IETF Chair's seat at all.  A few years ago, we had a discussion about that on the ietf@ietf.org list, and the community made it clear at that time that the IETF Chair needed to have a voting seat on the IAOC.

Russ