Re: Update on feedback on US-based meetings, and IETF 102

"Aaron Falk" <aaron.falk@gmail.com> Thu, 13 April 2017 20:36 UTC

Return-Path: <aaron.falk@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13D5126D74; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:36:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ESqaoXIaxV4g; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qt0-x243.google.com (mail-qt0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DDBE12957F; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qt0-x243.google.com with SMTP id o36so9413816qtb.2; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version; bh=wZ0xjRLmeHfcEjov0hd27CKgsfd72wX2xok98aT6NKU=; b=m4hdwwHlf3W9fQRZ5afS+8vo4VaDU+bf5CDMnjlF3zDwCJ8+nrEmbKPq0PD49U2lkc gjHXSqg8zMJjUQ/PUGsJhGaUZtxWgslT8642dXNDrfHISWi8uIB39tjREssJtWRlZgNj oTnREh4jVCcdu72sJZWUNJg3XcC1ti9sTHcaFmJXCSwiKzNNegvOr+UydQygkeZ55qru M0/bNcE/Ome5ZdFH0X/VuFhGXgWNZmIWr8o6wt3YHyRbAEpeRaGAs9GQBKWXCqVYSgnP Y/dbOZYGfd0tNl7U+FKKqIRJFvHFMJUzZrxDMxYtU+cEcxkW4Oy56sJ7NMa/be4k8U74 QPlA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version; bh=wZ0xjRLmeHfcEjov0hd27CKgsfd72wX2xok98aT6NKU=; b=QnFFRWr3x+JNNukgGkQrC8p5k/s2oADg0Ejk9YOOpJcXjctG4jBEyChS0rX3CgOntV BpEIyI9ZKvSFM7EgK6yT56/QMSmhHYv5fQqKqv3Wn84Qz/vPRiZfgbznzzz9UHJ6EgUk j6GXoFLQkNVR1bLyXnfPqaCaoTAQ4nVGfUjZJmFDe+tebvifYDlsbOAkn7hlkOj0xWz/ nFPYbE698wfsDf/o4/4xKOimV79TatQ9i2muVpbxuXjGrgh613EC44wDdOJyiPfoyCAk siEV00sqSNEV+s53xcbguPO82FGDdWWH24yZqq2mz5v0SvTFh6AqiiIiNaey37CxS84r CBDw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5Oq1fqWnbvbQ5kd50Q6CwKmP1m/IgqgYIg59eK/1PZpuSuGzH3 aDaiKn+iYLWUyQ==
X-Received: by 10.237.34.125 with SMTP id o58mr4179352qtc.108.1492115805392; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:36:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [172.19.37.144] ([2001:4878:8000:60:6123:c904:e972:b002]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p77sm722599qka.39.2017.04.13.13.36.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: ietf@ietf.org, iaoc@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Update on feedback on US-based meetings, and IETF 102
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 16:36:43 -0400
Message-ID: <3233BEC0-DE8F-4538-AF6C-2D2B2D60DD9C@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <3DF53F6ACE338CACF247F910@PSB>
References: <149204035801.15694.8437554373033456064.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <16010f27-e86b-b17d-4a13-62645e0bdc89@cs.tcd.ie> <3DF53F6ACE338CACF247F910@PSB>
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5356)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/4bNENfzjcJwuYikuzGSJMMT1HA4>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 20:36:49 -0000

+1

On 13 Apr 2017, at 14:35, John C Klensin wrote:

> I'm opposed to
> making _any_ changes in our long-term meeting plans based on
> rapidly changing political considerations, including but not
> limited to events in the US or UK in the last year.  Again, I
> think it is important to monitor things as meetings get close
> and to have some community consensus about the circumstances
> under which we would make significant changes in meeting plans,
> but deciding to hold (or not hold) a meeting in the US based on
> fears or fantasies about what has happened in the last six
> months (or overconfidence about how those things will play 9ut)
> and where those things might lead makes no sense to me.