Re: Meet Only line - I object

Erik Kline <> Tue, 02 February 2021 18:36 UTC

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From: Erik Kline <>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 10:36:18 -0800
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Subject: Re: Meet Only line - I object
To: Fred Baker <>
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:31 AM Fred Baker <> wrote:
> Looking at, I noted that there is no mailing list for this. Had there been one, this note would have been posted to it. I apologize for the wide distribution.
> I can see setting up a policy for meetings that are cancelled by Force Majuere, but the fact that we have had such doesn’t call for stopping having meetings. The fact is that face-to-face meetings have value - people can get to know each other and set up a social basis for discussion, if nothing else. I can see scaling back - our European colleagues find the summer meeting timing awkward at best. But I don;’t see the temporary effect of having a global pandemic as justification for simply shutting down to mailing lists - which would be the likely effect of failing to meet.
> So yes, I think we would do well to meet for IETF 111 and on.
> Sent from my iPad