Re: federated authentication for non-web applications at IETF 77

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Sat, 13 February 2010 15:35 UTC

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Josh, Sam,

Klaas Wierenga, Hank Mauldin, Hannes Tschofenig, and I have submitted
several drafts for consideration in the context of SASL, and we will be
presenting a short version of them at the APPS Area meeting and perhaps
something longer in SASL in advance of consideration of a charter
update.  Our work has focused on integration of two mechanisms- SAML and
OpenID.

Eliot

On 2/13/10 4:16 PM, Josh Howlett wrote:
> Sam wrote:
>   
>> We plan to discuss the general problem and a proposed 
>> solution at the bar BOF.  I've already prepared a feasibility 
>> analysis for JaNet(UK)'s solution; the analysis does discuss 
>> the problem some, gives an outline of the solution and 
>> discusses technical issues and required standards work in 
>> detail.  By IETF we'll have a use case paper, an internet 
>> draft on the solution,and a slide set.
>>     
> I just want to add to Sam's announcement that we explicitly asked him to
> focus on an independent criticism of our proposal that was intended for
> consumption within JANET(UK), as a means of informing our internal
> strategy, rather than exposition to an external audience. We also asked
> him to write at whatever level of technical detail was necessary for him
> to justify his conclusions.
>
> Consequently, Sam's paper is an erudite and raw technical analysis that
> assumes some background understanding of the proposal, as well as the
> underlying technologies. Nonetheless, we felt that it would be useful to
> circulate the paper as a first step towards socialising the proposal.
>
> As Sam indicates, we are working on a more general document that will
> serve to introduce the proposal and how we believe it addresses our
> use-cases. In the meantime, please get in touch with us if you have any
> questions or comments; or, better still, join the mailing list.
>
> josh.
>
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