Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary

Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU> Mon, 17 December 2007 00:00 UTC

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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:58:29 -0800
From: Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU>
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
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Subject: Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary
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On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 08:48:38AM -0800, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> At 7:56 AM -0800 12/16/07, Dave Crocker wrote:
> >Yaakov Stein wrote:
> >>Why don't we dedicate a separate 2 hour plenary just to this 
> >>experiment with the moderator announcing workarounds and collected 
> >>statistics ?
> >
> >That's not a plenary.
> >
> >That's an interoperability event.
> 
> Not at all: it is an operations experiment. The (probably valid) 
> assumption is that if people can get their systems set up correctly, 
> there will be good interoperability once bits are flowing end to end. 
> The test is getting their systems set up.
> 
> >The IETF doesn't do those...
> 
> ...but should. In the VPN Consortium's logo testing, we see much more 
> difficulty with the operations side of IPsec than in the IPsec 
> protocol itself. I would not be surprised to hear similar results for 
> other protocol suites, such as IPv6.

	if you think it should, then we should get Dan Lynch back
	and redo the fourth meeting of the year again... just can
	not call it Interop this go round.

--bill
> 
> Having the IETF see first-hand the operational aspects of its 
> protocols would probably have a positive effects on the protocols it 
> produces.
> 
> --Paul Hoffman, Director
> --VPN Consortium
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--bill

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