Re: Proposed IETF Privacy Policy for Review

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Thu, 17 March 2016 16:32 UTC

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From: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
Subject: Re: Proposed IETF Privacy Policy for Review
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On 3/17/16 05:34, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 01:14:17PM -0500,
>   Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote
>   a message of 149 lines which said:
>
>> I certainly hope that this means to say "IETF will store hashed
>> versions of these passwords and does not make them available to the
>> public."
> I don't think it is a good idea, in a policy document, to be too
> specific about the technical measures we take (because they may change
> often).

Sure, the level of technical detail can probably be scaled back a bit, 
but I think it's relevant for a privacy policy to indicate that password 
information is stored in an obscured form according to industry best 
practices.

/a