Re: Meet Only line - I object

Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Wed, 03 February 2021 19:40 UTC

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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 14:40:15 -0500
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Subject: Re: Meet Only line - I object
To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
Cc: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>, manycouches@ietf.org
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With current technology, virtual meetings are markedly inferior to
physical meetings. I oppose any reduction from three such meetings a
year, when they can be held, as such a change will make the IETF less
effective.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:14 AM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
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> Fred, et.al.,
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> inline please
>
> On 03/02/2021 02:36, Erik Kline wrote:
> > +manycouches@ietf.org
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:31 AM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looking at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-shmoo/ballot/, I noted that there is no mailing list for this. Had there been one, this note would have been posted to it. I apologize for the wide distribution.
> >>
> >> I can see setting up a policy for meetings that are cancelled by Force Majuere, but the fact that we have had such doesn’t call for stopping having meetings. The fact is that face-to-face meetings have value - people can get to know each other and set up a social basis for discussion, if nothing else. I can see scaling back - our European colleagues find the summer meeting timing awkward at best. But I don;’t see the temporary effect of having a global pandemic as justification for simply shutting down to mailing lists - which would be the likely effect of failing to meet.
> >>
> >> So yes, I think we would do well to meet for IETF 111 and on.
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> I agree, but think this is IETF 112, in the best case.
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> /Loa
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> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >
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