Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details

Melinda Shore <> Thu, 31 March 2016 18:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details
To: John C Klensin <>,
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On 3/31/16 10:29 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
> A registration requirement for remote participants is a major
> policy change and one for people who merely want to passively
> observe is something I believe the community has several times
> concluded is inappropriate given privacy, etc., concerns.

Yes, and inconsistent with the recent apparent consensus that
someone will be whitelisted for all IETF mailing lists if they're
signed up for any.

I do think there ought to be registration for people who are
active participants and who may influence outcomes - there are
tradeoffs around accountability and privacy that kick in in
that circumstance.  I don't think those tradeoffs apply to
merely consuming information.

In particular, I think it's weird and represents somewhat
incoherent engineering decisions to require registration to
passively monitor a session via Meetecho but not the raw
audio feed, and that no registration is required to watch
a recording.  Note that this is *not* an argument in favor of
requiring registration for access to archived material, but
that the registration requirement should be restricted to the
mike queue (although that raises the question of what to do
about questions relayed via Jabber).

As a frequent remote participant I'm very, very happy to see
that there's been progress on improving tools for allowing
remote participants to be more active during a session, but
as always seems to happen, the details are messy.