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Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus?

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Fri, 14 February 2020 04:10 UTC

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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus?
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Jay,

Thanks for the clarification.  Again, if something happens to
interfere with attendance and that is disruptive and unexpected,
I expect the registration fees are likely to be almost
insignificant relative to other costs, but it is good that the
IETF is being generous and clear about those costs anyway.

best,
  john


--On Friday, February 14, 2020 16:57 +1300 Jay Daley
<jay@ietf.org> wrote:

> 
>> On 14/02/2020, at 2:15 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Now consider someone who successfully obtains a visa (or does
>> not need one), makes air and hotel reservations, and arrives
>> at the airport intending to fly to the meeting.  Then,
>> because of policy shifts, they are either denied boarding or
>> arrive in the destination country and are denied admission
>> and sent home or, worse, locked up somewhere for 14 days.
> 
> ....
> 
>> Does the IETF refund the registration fee?  Current policy
>> is, I think, ambiguous, 
> 
> Just in case anyone is confused by this, the recently
> announced policy is for a full refund in the case of *any*
> government imposed travel restrictions that prevent someone
> attending the meeting, which may include, but are not limited
> to, denial of exit, denial of entry, diversion, repatriation,
> isolation and quarantine.

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