IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: Non routable IPv6 registry proposal

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Sun, 24 January 2021 04:52 UTC

Return-Path: <touch@strayalpha.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D3E3A0809 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 20:52:14 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.319
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.319 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=strayalpha.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cHouJ8iuwxmY for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 20:52:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: from server217-2.web-hosting.com (server217-2.web-hosting.com [198.54.115.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82E333A07EB for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 20:52:13 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=strayalpha.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To: From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Sender: Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender :Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Mj4ZFzDCCIi9aySM7GaUxrXkbezrsEbmeWa8Ql/r8s8=; b=rwqvsov2Cod99ZaPMgPjZcZsPY G3Kc7EGi+6y9hza/ZPnbWZQ8PqfWoTE8sPYTgkrf+lhnQYGEDvf5w3W6FBYhVKc3MQAWdBboLZeVI GXFXSL86YtXa49t+Q76K0U4k+4eAEUHdoEUNo4XHLVJQ4MVCcPWo4MyVOqDB1T8/59rbVGTuYE5I8 /oGWYoyThxG8gUv/FK6ACuKanedBXLYP6tLtJLM32Piz5r84ZSvuN41ho9cmOEf50Cmra0cUql19n Gi6EkBmp1eGmYhSmu3IfM68vHFz/o9Yken75Ia3pSXHKfniiVODL/+5cEu6tllr0sv79rBNspPUz/ 6Uc48y1g==;
Received: from cpe-172-250-225-198.socal.res.rr.com ([172.250.225.198]:55942 helo=[192.168.1.17]) by server217.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from <touch@strayalpha.com>) id 1l3XNZ-0020vB-Kk; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 23:52:07 -0500
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0)
Subject: Re: Non routable IPv6 registry proposal
From: Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
In-Reply-To: <85fca9a5-14f3-c875-c69a-33cb565ac508@si6networks.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2021 20:52:01 -0800
Cc: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>
Message-Id: <454D230B-437B-4DEE-9766-4246E6BB4575@strayalpha.com>
References: <85fca9a5-14f3-c875-c69a-33cb565ac508@si6networks.com>
To: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18C66)
X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server217.web-hosting.com
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org
X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - strayalpha.com
X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server217.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: touch@strayalpha.com
X-Authenticated-Sender: server217.web-hosting.com: touch@strayalpha.com
X-Source:
X-Source-Args:
X-Source-Dir:
X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/5kf2qDrNrU3-MClBbMcrxadyIYg>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 04:52:15 -0000

> On Jan 23, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
> 
> On 23/1/21 14:12, Joe Touch wrote:
>>>> On Jan 22, 2021, at 11:37 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One *internet-draft* certainly doesn't undermine E2E. However, I guess
>>> that an *RFC* published as a "Proposed Standard" probably does (undermine) E2E?
>> Not when it doesn’t update the hundreds of other standards that don’t.
> 
> It doesn't formally update them, true. But it is a de-facto update: behavior that goes against such other standards has been approved as PS.

There is no such thing as de facto updates.

You’re confusing the “let a thousand flowers bloom” approach with a change in architecture.

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email