Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> Mon, 23 November 2009 13:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
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Simon Josefsson allegedly wrote on 11/23/2009 5:03 AM:
> John-Luc said he is bound by confidentiality obligations from his
> company, and I think the same applies to most employees of larger
> organizations.  There is nothing explicit in BCP 79 to protect against
> this apparent conflict of interest, or is there?

   Since disclosure is required
   for anyone submitting documents or participating in IETF discussions,
   a person who does not disclose IPR for this reason, or any other
   reason, must not contribute to or participate in IETF activities with
   respect to technologies that he or she reasonably and personally
   knows to be Covered by IPR which he or she will not disclose.

Also,

   If a Contributor first learns of IPR in its Contribution that meets
   the conditions of Section 6.6, for example a new patent application
   or the discovery of a relevant patent in a patent portfolio, after
   the Contribution is published in an Internet-Draft, a disclosure must
   be made as soon as reasonably possible after the IPR becomes
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