RE: [http-auth] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-httpauth-hoba-08

"Black, David" <david.black@emc.com> Sat, 27 December 2014 16:52 UTC

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From: "Black, David" <david.black@emc.com>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "paul.hoffman@vpnc.org" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>, "mike@phresheez.com" <mike@phresheez.com>, "General Area Review Team (gen-art@ietf.org)" <gen-art@ietf.org>, "ops-dir@ietf.org" <ops-dir@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [http-auth] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-httpauth-hoba-08
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de]
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 5:12 AM
> To: Black, David; stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie; paul.hoffman@vpnc.org;
> mike@phresheez.com; General Area Review Team (gen-art@ietf.org); ops-
> dir@ietf.org
> Cc: http-auth@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [http-auth] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-httpauth-
> hoba-08
> 
> On 2014-12-27 04:15, Black, David wrote:
> > The -08 draft addresses all of the important issues in the combined Gen-ART
> > and OPS-Dir review of the -07 version, and is a definite improvement over
> > its -07 version.
> >
> > Based on discussion of item [5], there are a couple of remaining editorial
> > nits in Section 5.3:
> >
> >     During the authentication phase, if the server cannot determine the
> >     correct CPK, it could use HTML and JavaScript to ask the user if they
> >     are really a new user or want to associate this new CPK with another
> >     CPK.  The server can then use some out-of-band method (such as a
> >
> > "can" -> "should"
> >
> >     confirmation email round trip, SMS, or an UA that is already
> >     enrolled) to verify that the "new" user is the same as the already-
> >     enrolled one.  Thus, logging in on a new user agent is identical to
> >     logging in with an existing account.
> >
> >     If the server does not recognize the CPK the server might send the
> >     client through a either a join or login-new-UA (see below) process.
> >
> > "might" -> "should"
> >
> > I agree w/the draft editor that these are matters of editorial taste.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --David
> 
> For the record: I strongly disagree with the proposal to insert
> lower-cased BCP 14 keywords.
> 
> 
> Best regards, Julian

If the keyword itself is a concern, "ought to" is an alternative that has
been used in the past.

Thanks, --David