Re: Ombudsteam update

Allison Mankin <> Wed, 16 January 2019 18:09 UTC

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From: Allison Mankin <>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:11:29 -0500
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Subject: Re: Ombudsteam update
To: Abdussalam Baryun <>
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Hi, Abdussalam,

You are right, I misread the date on the mail when I was writing yesterday
(I have a kind of calendar dyslexia).   I too have that mail, but what I
wrote yesterday is still the case.

Please let ombudteam know (adding back ombudsteam to this email) if you
have a continuing issue, as my mail said yesterday.

I will send you another message that is between you and me and my
colleagues in ombudsteam, because of the confidentiality rules in our BCP
(RFC 7776).


On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 12:22, Abdussalam Baryun <>

> Hi Allison,
> Yes I have the email which was sent on Monday 9th October 2017 at 6:06 AM
> to, and I only sent once to
> those addresses and my email was not sent in 2018.
> Abdussalam,
> IETF Participant from Africa,
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:37 PM Allison Mankin <>
> wrote:
>> Hi, Absussalam,
> my name is Abdussalam, meaning serving God the peace,
>> I can't find the 2017 issue, but I did find the one in 2018, and not my
>> reply.  I recall sending you a reply.  I'm going to send you another one
>> now, with apologies since you did not receive it.  Also you should inform
>> me if you find a request from 2017.
>> Allison
>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 04:04, Abdussalam Baryun <
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Alissa,
>>> I hope this ombudsteam procedure is working well with no issues. How
>>> does the procedure monitor the time/delay of respond/action? I remember in
>>> 2017, I send an email to its email and cc to one person's name mentioned in
>>> your email. I did not get any reply (that email sent was ignored by both
>>> emails, and is still waiting for reply with very long delay), I noticed
>>> then that this ombudsteam is not working well as needed. Maybe there is
>>> a problem in implementation of rfc7776 or the procedure needs to be update
>>> for better practice.  IETF is about implementing procedures for best
>>> practices and for the community needs.
>>> Best Regards
>>> AB
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:36 PM IETF Chair <> wrote:
>>>> The IETF ombudsteam <> is a
>>>> designated group of people who have been selected to handle reports of
>>>> potential harassment in the IETF. The ombudspeople serve in support of
>>>> maintaining an IETF environment in which people of many different
>>>> backgrounds are treated with dignity, decency, and respect, per our
>>>> Anti-Harassment Policy <
>>>> Earlier this week, Linda Klieforth stepped down from the ombudsteam. I
>>>> would like to thank Linda for her foundational contributions to the team
>>>> and for all she has done to help create a welcoming environment in the IETF.
>>>> Melinda Shore has graciously agreed to join the ombudsteam. Many thanks
>>>> to Melinda for her willingness to take on this role in addition to her
>>>> existing duties. Allison Mankin and Pete Resnick continue to serve on the
>>>> team.
>>>> As always, the ombudsteam can be reached at or at
>>>> their individual addresses listed on the web page above. The IETF
>>>> Anti-Harassment Procedures (RFC 7776) that govern the ombudsteam's
>>>> operations can be found at <>.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alissa Cooper
>>>> IETF Chair