Re: [ih] more bounce management, was update about bogus list unsubcribe requests

Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> Sun, 28 August 2016 02:47 UTC

Subject: Re: [ih] more bounce management, was update about bogus list unsubcribe requests
To: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>, ietf@ietf.org
References: <20160827215152.46590.qmail@ary.lan>
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:47:04 -0400
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On 8/27/16 5:51 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> Actually the list kind of noticed.  I seem to remember a short exchange
>> with Vint Cerf about his emails not getting through, or mail not getting
>> to him, as well as some broader discussion on the list when mail first
>> started disappearing into a black hole.  If you happen to remember the
>> date when p=reject first showed up bigtime, I could probably find those
>> exchanges.
> For Yahoo it was about April 1, 2014, and for AOL about May 15.
>
(April 1 - how appropriate - though I think it was more like the 7th - 
see below)

If you check the IETF list archives, and search on DMARC:
at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=ietf&q=DMARC
(horrible interface, by the way - it doesn't give the option of 
selecting by month/year)

you'll find 100s of messages, on several threads, clustering from April 
7 through the end of April 2014.

Interestingly, the very first was this one:
Yahoo breaks every mailing list in the world including the IETF's
"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 07 April 2014 20:11 UTCShow header

Another interesting thread:
One of the more interesting threads started with:
Will mailing lists survive DMARC?
Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Tue, 29 April 2014 11:11 UTCShow header

Cheers,

Miles

-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

Re: [ih] more bounce management, was update about… Miles Fidelman