Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 11 August 2012 15:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm
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On 11/08/2012 15:41, Dave Crocker wrote: > >> Aihe: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm >> Lähettäjä: "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com> > ... >> (I'd even co-sign for the IRTF, but I think that isn't really >> appropriate in this case.) > > > The "for the IRTF" underscores a possible concern in the current situation. > > The perception will certainly be that the IAB and IETF chairs' signature > do represent the support of the IETF. > > But we are a consensus-oriented group and we have not had anything that > even hints at a consensus-oriented process to authorize that > representation. Dave, I wasn't in Vancouver, nor even listening to the audio stream, so I can't comment on what happened there. However, the discussion here (e.g. on the "ITU-T Dubai Meeting" thread) and the previous opportunity to comment on the proposed statement, which has resulted in changes, strikes me as an open discussion of the kind we expect in the IETF. When the goal is agreed wording between several organisations, and it seems clear that the two chairs are representing the ethos of the IETF in the discussion, I don't see how we can reasonably ask for more in the time available. Brian
- VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Jari Arkko
- Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standa… Dave Crocker
- Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Re: [MARKETING] Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Mode… Stewart Bryant
- Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standa… Glen Zorn
- Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Glen Zorn
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… SM
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Glen Zorn
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… SM
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Barry Leiba
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Barry Leiba
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Metadiscussion [Last Call: Modern Global Standard… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Lixia Zhang
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… SM
- Please, not more process (was: [IAB] Last Call: M… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Michael StJohns
- Re: Please, not more process (was: [IAB] Last Cal… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Richard Shockey
- One sentence SM