Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm

Brian E Carpenter <> Sat, 11 August 2012 15:20 UTC

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On 11/08/2012 15:41, Dave Crocker wrote:
>> Aihe: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm
>> Lähettäjä: "Eggert, Lars" <>
> ...
>> (I'd even co-sign for the IRTF, but I think that isn't really
>> appropriate in this case.)
> The "for the IRTF" underscores a possible concern in the current situation.
> The perception will certainly be that the IAB and IETF chairs' signature
> do represent the support of the IETF.
> But we are a consensus-oriented group and we have not had anything that
> even hints at a consensus-oriented process to authorize that
> representation.


I wasn't in Vancouver, nor even listening to the audio stream, so I can't
comment on what happened there. However, the discussion here (e.g. on
the "ITU-T Dubai Meeting" thread) and the previous opportunity to comment
on the proposed statement, which has resulted in changes, strikes me as
an open discussion of the kind we expect in the IETF. When the goal
is agreed wording between several organisations, and it seems clear
that the two chairs are representing the ethos of the IETF in the
discussion, I don't see how we can reasonably ask for more in the
time available.