RE: how to contact the IETF

Noel wrote:

> Rather than adopt indirect measures (such as requiring people to be 
> registered users of a list), I would go straight to the heart of the 
> matter, and adopt a formal policy that a mass email campaign should
> count _against_ the position taken by that campaign, precisely to
> dis-incentivize such campaigns.

A formal policy would require some clear definition of what a "mass email
campaign" is.  How would/could we draw a line and define that term?

Would 100 people sending more or less the same text to a list in less than
24 hours constitute a mass email campaign?  I would say 'yes'.

What about 50 people over 2 days?  Maybe still 'yes'.

How about 20 people over a week, or 10 people recited the same cut and
pasted text during a longer last-call timeframe?

I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea here, but rather I am
wondering how something like this could be formalized, versus handled as an
exceptional case when and if it occurs.

Regards,

Ed  J.

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From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Noel
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Sent: February 10, 2009 11:21 AM
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Subject: Re: how to contact the IETF

    > From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com>

    > This means that those "driving by" have to be tolerated, I think.

Ah, no.

Because if organizing an email campaign works for the FSF, next thing you
know, BigCorp X will be telling everyone who works for it 'we want standard
Q
approved, please send email to the IETF list about that'. If we allow
ourselves to be influenced by a mass email campaign, all we are doing is
virtually guaranteeing that we will get more.  So I think we have an active
interest is responding _negatively_ to such campaigns.

Rather than adopt indirect measures (such as requiring people to be
registered
users of a list), I would go straight to the heart of the matter, and adopt
a
formal policy that a mass email campaign should count _against_ the position
taken by that campaign, precisely to dis-incentivize such campaigns.

	Noel
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