Re: Fully functional email address

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Mon, 16 June 2025 09:03 UTC

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 02:01:11 -0700
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: Fully functional email address
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Hi Christian,
At 12:45 PM 15-06-2025, Christian Huitema wrote:
>First, to the general topic of email: basically, email is dying. Or 
>rather, it is becoming really hard to deploy individual servers. 
>Sooner or later, you get flagged as a spammer by one of the DNS 
>blacklists, and you lose connectivity with a bunch of other small 
>servers. Rather painful.

Yes.

>Second, on reviews. Our review system does not actually require 
>sending feedback by individual email. You can submit your review 
>through the data tracker, and we have per draft mailing lists of 
>authors, so we never need to send direct emails.
>
>So, the state of email is bad, but the state of reviews is OK.

Michael raised an interesting point.  The community interaction over 
the years were through email [1].  Email was associated with what was 
one of the cardinal principles [2] of the IETF.  Nowadays, it is 
associated (outside this community) with legacy communication.  It 
might be different in other parts of the world, or in other age-groups.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. There was a discussion during an IAB Open on that topic.
2. I am not arguing that the cardinal principle should not be 
rethought in light of real-world experience.