FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ? (was: Re: John/rsoc: Re: Page numbers in RFCs questions / preferences)
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Mon, 26 October 2020 18:14 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ? (was: Re: John/rsoc: Re: Page numbers in RFCs questions / preferences)
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[Sorry, resenting with poll URL instead of result URL] Since about RFC8650, newer RFC will not have any renderings with page numbers on {datatracker,tools}.ietf.org. See explanation from John Levine below. Not having followed the details of the RFC/XMLv3 standardization process, i was surprised by this because i think there is no reason to have additional renderings, maybe even only on tools.ietf.org that do include page numbers (and technically it does not seem to be a problem either). If you care to express your position, i have created a poll for this, please chime in there: https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3188562x294441dA-98 Results here: https://www.poll-maker.com/results3188562x294441dA-98 Cheers toerless On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 01:35:43PM -0400, John R. Levine wrote: > > Could you please explain why RSOC does not want to permit the ability > > to have paginated RFC output options ? Also, where and when was this > > discussed with the community ? > > It was discussed in the multi-year process leading to the IAB > publishing RFCs 7990, 7991, 7992, 7993, 7994, 7995, 7996, 7997, and > 7998 in 2016. I'm sure you know how to find the discussions in the > archives. Henrik knows all of this and I cannot imagine why he did not tell > you the same thing. > > I am aware there is one recent RFC author who did not participate in > the process at all and has been complaining that the text version of > his RFC doesn't have page numbers. I've explained this to him more > than once, and see no reason to waste more time on it. > > R's, > John
- FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty pleas… Toerless Eckert
- Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty p… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty p… David Noveck
- Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty p… Jim Fenton
- Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty p… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty p… Jim Fenton
- Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty p… David Noveck
- Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty p… Robert Sparks
- Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (… Carsten Bormann
- Setting Reply-To Robert Sparks
- Re: Setting Reply-To Derek Atkins
- Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numb… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … John C Klensin
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Mark Andrews
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Julian Reschke
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Keith Moore
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Julian Reschke
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Warren Kumari
- Re: [rfc-i] Jim: Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Mark Andrews
- Re: [rfc-i] Jim: Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Larry Masinter
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Keith Moore
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Julian Reschke
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Keith Moore
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Julian Reschke
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Donald Eastlake
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Christian Huitema
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Mark Andrews
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … John C Klensin
- Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Leonard Giuliano
- Re: [rfc-i] Jim: Re: FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Toerless Eckert
- RE: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page … Black, David
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