US Travel ban

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Thu, 12 March 2020 02:17 UTC

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The US has just announced a travel ban from the EU. Travel from the UK is
not banned yet but expect that to change in the next few days as the
results come in from the expanded testing regime that was brought in a few
days back.

This will almost certainly mean a lot of IETF-ers are now entitled to
refunds as their US connections are cancelled. And most likely the airlines
will be getting some sort of government financial support like they did in
the wake of 9/11.

Canada has not yet followed suit but it is surely only a matter of days
before they do. For planning purposes I would assume that there is a
significant probability international travel is suspended entirely sometime
next week. So we can probably expect further refund opportunities.