Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Diversity of candidates was Re: NomCom 2020 Announcement of Selections
Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 26 January 2021 21:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Diversity of candidates was Re: NomCom 2020 Announcement of Selections
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There is one easy tool that I think we should use more in appointing WG chairs. ADs could publicly ask for volunteers. I was very pleasantly surprised a number of years ago when I and another IAB member had to appoint a person to a position. We knew who we wanted. We decided we should put out a public call anyway. And got a volunteer we had not thought of who was even better. Yours, Joel PS: As mentioned by others, I think the practice of pairing experienced chairs with new chairs is both a good idea and very effective. On 1/26/2021 2:03 PM, Keith Moore wrote: > On 1/26/21 1:26 PM, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > >> IIRC, all the nominees were WG Chairs. This is generally considered an >> intermediary step towards the NomCom-appointed leadership positions. I >> strongly suspect (but don't feel incented to get real statistics) that >> the nominee pool diversity reasonably resembled WG Chair diversity, >> but that WG Chair diversity does not reflect attendee diversity. > > If WG chairs tend to be people who have attended many in-person meetings > and/or have actively participated in IETF for a few years, I wonder how > much the diversity of WG chairs is affected by attendee churn which > seems to be larger today than in the past. It's hardly surprising if ADs > who appoint chairs want people experienced with IETF process (and > consensus-based decision making in particular, since we rely on chairs > to gauge consensus and sometimes to help build consensus within their > WGs). It would also not be surprising if participants would like to > experience IETF before taking on the responsibility of chair. > > So one thing I'm curious about is: how does IETF encourage more > participants to be engaged in IETF in general, instead of only in the > context of specific WGs? > > Or to put it another way: how does IETF encourage more participation by > people with broad and/or long-term interests in the Internet? > > I wonder if the fee waivers can continue indefinitely even for in-person > attendance, or if there can be fee reductions for f2f meetings. Even > if it's not feasible to reduce fees for everyone who cannot pay for > in-person meetings, perhaps there could be reductions in fees from > under-represented parts of the world? Perhaps other means of lowering > the cost of attendance can be found? > > Keith > >
- How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Diversit… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Michael Richardson
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Keith Moore
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Fred Baker
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Fernando Gont
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Joel Halpern
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Fred Baker
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Joel Halpern
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… tom petch
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Fernando Gont
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Fred Baker
- Maintenance WG: Re: How to get diversity of nomin… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Maintenance WG: Re: How to get diversity of n… Michael Richardson
- Re: Maintenance WG: ent of Selections Joel Halpern
- Re: Maintenance WG: Re: How to get diversity of n… Michael Richardson
- Re: Maintenance WG: ent of Selections tom petch
- RE: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Dive… Richard Li