Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Mon, 16 September 2013 23:19 UTC

Return-Path: <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19F111E81CC for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:19:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jwp7mNhKpxHd for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:19:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pb0-x235.google.com (mail-pb0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5E411E8151 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:19:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id up15so4658986pbc.40 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:19:27 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ilyko8R/1IBZ1KR+BY7TH7oYQttcPdzFUaaIjGkI200=; b=ibvojEMZwEMp0eyn6GlS+ZLFab95EN+JKOa6QlJd+0pUJtSiOrwohWwbBpp57sWlUC hYZTF1xJairpcBj797Zq6Tr1kIUvtVKHeZs8Df/MpDJnCJzZzS9LEZrBNHL4nyRVCiW5 ZoyfrdbX+Rm3slDIelt5pY027Q/8rxuEDGpVZB2YKMoaYUkbE1I0y4lCy6+1FYDVu6qD fnUuek4k/f5NgiQwsx+HPOYoA8BmhGx+Ufzc5rIf9xPd6A+WBFnEPimZcOSNqk8bBc7z FMuypskfvpiqPvpDDMukcfvcpG4Ns+kO/HxsvGYrvj8aSN8+L37cDATlojsCO2Xf4aW7 r/BQ==
X-Received: by 10.68.32.228 with SMTP id m4mr4358581pbi.164.1379373566959; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:19:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from spandex.local (216-67-47-138-rb1.fai.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net. [216.67.47.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dw3sm33774792pbc.17.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:19:26 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <523791FB.2070807@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:19:23 -0800
From: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors
References: <20130916203141.86927.qmail@joyce.lan> <C65F64A8-2D7B-47AF-BAAC-DE4DE57586B7@checkpoint.com>
In-Reply-To: <C65F64A8-2D7B-47AF-BAAC-DE4DE57586B7@checkpoint.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:19:27 -0000

On 9/16/13 1:02 PM, Yoav Nir wrote:
> If we use ORCID instead of email, we get less strong authentication.

That's not its job - it's there to distinguish between authors
with similar names.  As I understand the proposal the intent is
to have it provide additional information, not supplant anything.
There is currently no identifier that provides that kind of
discrimination.  I don't see any real downside to allowing
people who have ORCIDs to put them in IETF documents.  I'm not
sure there's a lot of demand for them (this is the first time
it's come up, as far as I know) but I don't see a problem with
plopping one more piece of information - one that has a unique
function - into our docs.

Melinda