Re: Registration open for IETF 114

[Mary B <[e-mail]>]

Anupam,

As far as the fees being exclusionary, there is a fee waiver program - no
questions asked or proof required.

Regards,
Mary.

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 10:26 PM Anupam Agrawal <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> At one point in time, meeting fees possibly was the only way to cover the
> costs of IETF and USD 600 was justified. Even more was  justified even
> though at the risk of being exclusionary. Survival is important than
> optics.
>
> But now, As on Dec-20, IETF LLC had 19M USD (19,301,645 $) in stock
> investments yielding 2M USD in Investment income. Any stock market invest
> has a risk attached to it. Interestingly, the auditor points out that IETF
> bank deposits of 477K USD is beyond the insurable limit and thus has a risk.
>
> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/2020_Audited_Financials.pdf
>
> Possibly an opportunity to correct the exclusionary trend.
>
> --
> Anupam
>
> On 10-May-2022, at 9:10 AM, George Michaelson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I used a US inflation calculator. in 2007 IETF registration cost $600.
> 2022 would be $830 if it simply kept pace with the CPI adjustment to
> the dollar.
>
> So the "$700 is reasonable" has a basis in 15 years practie. When did
> we become so exclusionary? at least 15 years ago.
>
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/JUByvYCkSb2WDSt9h4lDkaoe9gc/
>
> -G
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 1:17 PM Keith Moore <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
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> On 5/9/22 23:07, John Levine wrote:
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> Could you give us a specific dollar limit for a reasonable price?
>
> This is going to vary a lot from one person to another, but offhand I'd
> say that $1000/meeting for hotel and entry fee combined (not including
> travel) is a good goal for meetings in North America.
>
> The early bird fee is $700.  $300 for a week's hotel?
>
> Why is $700 reasonable either?   How have we let IETF become so
> exclusionary?   Is that really consistent with IETF's mission?
>
> Even if we tried to go the cheap route and find a college campus
> that would host us for free, when I look for places near our
> local campus they're a lot more than $75/night.
>
> I don't know where you're from.   But I know many places where decent,
> safe, clean rooms can be had for around $75/night.   Granted, they're less
> likely to be in large cities, but sometimes they're within reasonable
> commuting distance of city centers.
>
> Keith
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