Re: Fred Baker :-(

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

Very sad news, and like Dean i would like to express condolences to family and friends.

Fred was a great colleague, i worked more with or alongside him in Cisco than the IETF.

Fred was responsible for the first implementation of RSVP in the late 90th and it even
did support IP multicast!

His decades long work on IETF and the parallel work in the industry with many customers also
brought a breath of "enterprise" operators/implementers to the IETF for the time i tracked it,
something which i think we are seeing way too little these days.

Another in hindsight fond memory was when reviewing proposed supposedly new technologies in QoS
where he often was saying "this was invented a decade or longer ago already". Which at time
i often found arrogant and frustrating, but the more i learned about it, it always turned
out to be true. I fear this is a problem that newcomers to the IETF will also get to
experience more and more across more and more technologies given the decades of experiments/technologies
we have accumulated - but mnot always successfully implemented in the industry.

I especially admire how Fred did help many young respearchers to get ahead, specifically
collaborating with them in universites. Including actually helping with visa
policies to get foreign students to visit the USA. Something which after i learned about it
from him, i tried to explain to the IETF ... not sure if successfully though ;-).

My favorite Fred Baker RFCs are 2804 and 3924. Especially on the latter one:
I wish there was more of this transparency from more IETF participants representing 
large industry players with similar perpass activites.

Cheers
    Toerles

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 07:17:18AM +0000, Jonne Soininen (Nokia) wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I worked with Fred on many occasions, and served on some of the same committees. Not only he was a great technical expert, but he was a really nice person as well. He will be missed.
> 
> My condolences.
> 
> -Jonne.
> 
> From: Dean Bogdanovic <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tuesday, 24. June 2025 at 0.00
> To: Benoit <[e-mail]>
> Cc: IETF-Discussion list <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: Fred Baker :-(
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> Sad news!
> 
> Condolences to family and friends
> 
> RIP Fred
> 
> > On Jun 19, 2025, at 8:49 AM, Benoit <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I just hear the sad news today
> >
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> >
> > Fred, in his multiple roles at the IETF (including IETF chair) and as Cisco Fellow, was a role model for me and a personal mentor.  His Internet contributions are obviously numerous.
> > For sure, he will be greatly missed.
> >
> > Regards, Benoitt
> >
> > Regards, Benoit

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