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Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 03 July 2019 20:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 7/3/19 4:25 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:

>     It seems to me that this would defeat the entire purpose of
>     Internet-Drafts and serve to circumvent the IETF process. There
>     should be no expectation of stability until a document has reached
>     IETF-wide consensus.
>
>
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> Great, please come to the side meeting and we can try better explain 
> the use case.

Great, please send funding.

Keith

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