Re: Last Call: <draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis-03.txt> (IETF Guidelines for Conduct) to Best Current Practice

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Thu, 07 November 2013 01:31 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:29:33 -0800
To: Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com>
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis-03.txt> (IETF Guidelines for Conduct) to Best Current Practice
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Hi Arturo,
At 16:39 06-11-2013, Arturo Servin wrote:
>I do not think it is a call for the shepherd to decide to add it or 
>not, but to us as a group.

The document shepherd is there to see that the issues are 
addressed.  What I meant was that if I do not address an issue the 
document shepherd could, for example, tell me "you forgot to address 
X", or "there is agreement to add text about Y and you did not do it".

>Also, I do not see why included the text or not will stop somebody 
>to sued the IETF, but I am not a lawyer.

I don't know the implications.

>And, as recent events of discussions about harassment, I am firmly 
>believe that this issue has to be addressed in the draft, if not as 
>a whole policy at least to mention that any type of harassment 
>(sexual, racial, etc.) should not be done.

There is a policy at 
http://www.ietf.org//iesg/statement/ietf-anti-harassment-policy.html 
I welcome any comments about how to fill the gap is the policy is 
considered as inadequate.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy